It took rock back to the s with its simplistic music. It retained some of the rougher edge from the 60s and some innovations, such as distortion and so on, but it really brought nothing new. In the s bands like the Beatles were making rock a serious type of music. This tradition was continued by hard rock bands such as Deep Purple, progressive bands such as Pink Floyd and even glam acts such as David Bowie and then punk came along and ruined everything.
It may have seemed fresh for a short while but then punk became old too and unfortunately it seems that music never fully recovered after it. Too many of the bands that followed took terrible bands such as the Sex Pistols as their main influence and it all went downhill from there.
There was very little musicianship in the s and even less in the s. Now it seems there is some kind of a resurgence. I hope this trend continues. Message 1 of All forum topics Previous Topic Next Topic. Very amusing. Wrong, but amusing. Message 2 of If you allow the media or radio to dictate what you're listening to, then you might have a point.
Personally, I haven't listened to the radio in 10 years and I find that there's plenty of great music around in just about every style you can imagine.
Message 3 of However, I guarantee if you were to ask members of Tool or System they would cite punk bands as influences - even if only for attitude's sake. Punk instilled the attitude of the 50's you're right there that music belonged to people with passion, and was not reserved for haughty rockstars with classical ambitions Deep Purple, for example. I love all kinds of music Deep Purple includedand I can say punk saved 'music' for me, and it's ethic and sound spread much farther than the corporate music industry would have you believe in other words, Wire and the Fall made a more significant impact than Flock Of Seagulls, for example.
I suggest you look outside mainstream sources for your music history and theory. Coming on here and saying "I like Dream Theatre and Nirvana sucks" shows your amusing bias. My hope is that you someday get excited about another genre jazz?
Message 4 of Nov 21, PM. Yes, a lot of punk rock was very derivitive and formulaic, but that can be said about any genre of music- there are leaders and there are followers.
People tend to forget about the followers over time anyway. Punk came along in the '70s because a lot of that fine, serious musicianship you mentioned essentially translated into a bunch of boring drek made by a bunch of arrogant twits who though their you-know-what didn't stink because they could play Bach fugues backwards. The greatest thing about punk was that it reminded everyone that rock'n'roll was the people's music.
I Punk Rock Ruined Our Lives - Closet Monster - We Rebuilt This City (CD) your skin is thick because people get fired up when folks post broad generalizations such as yours. Message 5 of The style of music isn't what destroys the music biz. It's the corporate suits. Look, back in you had to be a progressive-art rocker to get respect. Concept albums or nothing! Dixie Dregs, anyone? OK I'll quit now. A few years later you were on the outs if you weren't Disco or Glam.
Then punk or it's sanitized nomenclature, new wave. Then metal. Then rap. They want to promote replacable bands that people will buy a couple of albums from and then forget. So now they're promoting the bands that they think are easy to clone--mostly Creed knockoffs, midriff Divas, etc.
It's just narrow minded corporate thinking--they want to make a mass produced product and market it, not to develop artists who might inspire different markets. When the record execs figure out how to respect different tastes and I have no hope for their dense little effete minds on that point then we won't be asking what killed rock.
Message 6 of I don't think Punk killed Rock music as much as the whole Grunge scene did. Today, the only rock on the radio is still these grunge leftover bands Creed, Staind, Incubis They all sound like they are singing with socks in their mouths. Message 7 of Yes, punk rock killed music.
But it was already dead, since disco had killed it a few years earlier. And "old skool" rock-'n'-roll had killed it several times over beginning in the '50s. Now there is no more music. Of any kind. Especially if all you listen to is commercial radio and MTV.
Message 8 of Punk brought forth a new generation - you must accept it as a legitimate form of music. There is always room for more musical expression. Hey - when The Beatles came on the scene in the 60's - many ridiculed them and their music - it was not always a pleasant experience being a Beatles fan I remember being bullied more than a few times. Minds must always be open - and the new generation must express itself! It can be no other way. And I am glad for that: Sandi. Message 9 of Nov 24, PM.
Know your history. The Beatles were Punk Rock Ruined Our Lives - Closet Monster - We Rebuilt This City (CD) first rock band to ever use distortion, thereby creating the hard rock scene indirectly. My point is that they were both innovators. Punk rock was just retro. It recycled old stuff. Whether you Punk Rock Ruined Our Lives - Closet Monster - We Rebuilt This City (CD) them or not, the prog rock bands were also innovators nad money wasn't all they cared about, unlike many of today's bands.
There are no real musicians anymore among hte really popular bands. Punk killed real musicianship and allowed untalented people to gain popularity. Looking at the big picture in art, there has always been a struggle between baroque art and simple art. This was true with classical music. Its true with design adn a lot of other areas too. This is what happened between punk and prog. Its a matter of oppinion which you think is better, but as far as technical musicianship goes, there is no doubt that the prog rockers were better.
We can argue until we ar black and blue over which is "better" but you can't deny that the prog rockers wer more skilled musicians. Message 10 of Nov 25, AM.
I agree with your point that the Beatles gave rock and roll a much-needed kick in the pants, but if you're playing the distortion card, you need to include garage punk The Seeds, for example and The Ventures. If you look from an objective standpoint, punk did exactly what the Beatles did 20 years earlier - bring rebellion and a love for the funamental foundations for rock and roll back into the mainstream. We could go on and on about how punk was happening 10 years after the Beatles, but it didn't hit the cigar-smoking bigwigs until the early 80's.
If your only criteria for good music is musicianship, then you're sadly missing out on a large part of the musical spectrum.
Turn off your radio and go to a cool record store that sells vinyl, hopefully and talk to the employees there - you might broaden your horizons.
I went through a prog-rock resurgence a couple of years ago because bands like Can and Aamon Duul and Nektar still sound fresh and untainted by the scourge of clasic rawk radio. Whether they were great musicians is a minor point to me Can probably weren't, if you get right down to it, but they were incredibly innovative.
Back to your original point - that Nirvana punk!?! Your limited scope of music history isn't helping you build your argument, but if you're saying that Nirvana ushered in the insipid mimicry that corporations are foisting upon us, I agree with you completely. I suggest you call some of Satan's minions at Clear Channel and say you want some talent on your airwaves.
I got yer back, buddy The bands you listed as favorites would all fall in the latter category, by the way, which is just fine. Thanks for the cool thread, tariqk.
I think about this stuff every day and I've really enjoyed the witty and incisive answers from all you cool folks. Message 11 of Nov 27, PM. I'd like to touch on a couple of points. First of all, Rock and Roll did not die in the '70s.
I personally feel that the '80's were, quite possibly, the best musical decade in rock and roll history. Guns 'n Roses was a band that brought a fresh new look to the glam metal that was overinundatint the market. Skid Row was another sensational act with one of the best vocalists in the history of rock music bellowing out the words. Judas Priest had another phenomenal vocalist in Rob Halford. Then there was Faith No More who produced an outstanding album one of my top five all time favorites in The Real Thing.
I don't like Metallica, but having been forced to learn some of their songs over the years, I can respect their musicianship. Van Halen, who actually had their start in the '70's, made another huge splash on the rock scene when they replaced David Lee Roth with Sammy Hagar. Bruce Springsteen, the greatest songwriter of my generation, had some huge success during the middle of the decade.
Pearl Jam provided some great guitar riffs and a great vocal punch. Soundgarden was another band that provided a great vocal punch Chris Cornell can scream better than anyone. Alice and Chains threw another different twist with two guys that could sing in harmony or by themselves. Let's not forget the Stone Temple Pilots.
Now Scott Wieland can really wail. Finally, who can forget one of my favorite songwriters of all time Tom Petty. He, with Mike Campbell, make such simple, yet beautiful, songs. Next of all I'm not saying that 3-chord power chord bands are bad I give respect to the Ramones where it was due Both bands were very innovative in what they did with what limited knowledge they had.
The arpeggio-like Punk Rock Ruined Our Lives - Closet Monster - We Rebuilt This City (CD) riff in Nirvana's "Lithium" is a very nice way to make power chords sound good. I learned how to play guitar on Nirvana and Foo Fighters songs. If it wasn't for those bands, I'd probably still be struggling on my first Clapton song. Patti Smith knows what it is to be an outsider.
As a sort of artistic polymath, Smith grabbed bits and pieces of genres ranging from reggae to garage rock, played them with a righteous fury, and delivered lyrics that fought for a place of their own, inspired by fellow outsiders like French poet Arthur Rimbaud, Doors vocalist Jim Morrison, and the then-recently deceased Jimi Hendrix. While the Ramones were playing tough in their leather jackets in New York, Jonathan Richman kept his polos and stayed in Boston — and still wound up making a massive impact on the history of punk rock.
The willfully geeky, social-outcast style set the stage for the upcoming emo movement, Punk Rock Ruined Our Lives - Closet Monster - We Rebuilt This City (CD), while their simple, driving song structures fit in line with The Velvet Underground and the garage rock ahead. Nothing like the sound of immortal pain and suffering for the future of music.
Rather than abandon pop tropes entirely, singer Dave Vanian and his merry band of mischief-makers played around with them, coating them with mud and blood and plenty of cream frosting, to boot. The Sex Pistols may have changed punk forever, but not before The Damned gave it this enduring blueprint: old melodies, new attitude. List 'Em Carefully. Share this: Facebook Twitter Reddit.
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I've heard it said that punk music saved rock in the s but I just don't understand this point of view. Punk brought nothing new to rock. It was retro. It took rock back to the s with its simplistic music. It retained some of the rougher edge from the 60s and some innovations, such as distort.
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